Ellen G. White Does Not Teach Against The Annual Jewish Feast Days Yet Many Ellen White Proponents Mistakenly Believe She Does
Please Note.: The author of this post maintains the highest regard both for the Scripture and the writings of Ellen G. White. I read both every single day.
Dear Ginny,
Am I really having this discussion with you? I can't believe that you are actually attempting to defend the Adventists and their gross idolatry of Ellen White.
Could it be that it is simply a desire to debate that motivates you?
Most Seventh-day Adventists will not actually admit that they esteem EGW's authority above the Scripture but that does not mean that they do not actually follow her example more than they do the example of Messiah and the Apostles.We need to understand that people in general do not need to admit to being guilty of a flawed behavioral pattern in order for it to be true. In fact, most will never admit that they have a problem with anything because this would only cause them to begin to correct the problem which most people do not want to do. Most would rather live in a state of denial and continue in the established sick patterns rather than be resolute and turn from their evil ways.
With that said, I understand your attempt to defend your ancestors and all (full letter below) but unfortunately you have not done even a decent job of defending them nor the Scripture. Yes, your SDA ancestors were EGW Idolators just like most Adventists are. So yes, I'm sorry to have to be the one to burst your prideful bubble and inform you that your ancestors only read the Scripture as it agreed with the writings and example of EGW and not the other way around as they should have done.
Ginny writes..
"In all my years of association with Seventh-day Adventist I do not recall a single one who ever admitted to believing that EGW is a higher source of authority than the Scripture. Not one! Ever! Yet you believe that to be true of MOST Seventh-day Adventists! Wow!"
john writes
If your ancestors in fact did accept the Scripture as a higher authority than Ellen G. White as you say they did then you would have been raised celebrating the Jewish Biblical holydays of Passover, Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, Trumpets, Yom Kipper and Tabernacles rather than the Pagan rooted Christmas, Easter, Birthdays and the plethora of other pagan roots holidays that the majority of Adventists observe and celebrate today.
Your sarcastic statement above is nothing more than a sad reflection of your own personal denial of reality of the condition of most Seventh-day Adventists including YOUR ancestors. The fact remains that the vast majority of Seventh-day Adventists are gross Ellen White idolaters just like the Lutherans are gross Martin Luther Idolaters. They misuse Sister White's writings to forge ahead with their 1800's vintage anti-Judaic perspectives and agenda rather than using her writings to further the cause of the unfolding of Present truth. Rather than using Ellen White as a stepping stone to new light, many SDAs use her as a road block to any possible new light. That is a missuse of the Spirit of Prophecy.
" In every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people of that generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it. It is only as the old truths are understood that we can comprehend the new. When Christ desired to open to His disciples the truth of His resurrection, He began "at Moses and all the prophets" and "expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself." Luke 24:27. But it is the light which shines in the fresh unfolding of truth that glorifies the old. He who rejects or neglects the new does not really possess the old. For him it loses its vital power and becomes but a lifeless form. " {COL 127.4}
"But the path of the just [is] as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day." Proverbs 4:18
Sadly, the reality of the matter is that most Seventh-day Adventists have fallen into the same rut that the other denominations have fallen into in that they have erected a monument of shame to a great leader by following that leader rather than following THE GREAT LEADER and moving forward whenever He chooses to shed more light upon their path.
Shalom,
John
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On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Ginny wrote:
Shabbat Shalom John,
Thanks for responding. I understand that you believe Ellen White to be a lesser AUTHORITY than the Scripture.
On May 21 you wrote: i unlike most Adventists do NOT believe that EGW is a higher source of authority than the Scripture.
Wow! I find that amazing!
I am (was) a third generation Seventh-day Adventist. Both sets of grandparents became Adventists as children and 1 great grandparent on each side was an Adventist. Both of my grandfathers met Ellen White and my paternal grandmother worked for Ellen as a young girl at Elmshaven.
Ellen White was the great grandmother of my best friend in grade school, whose dad was the pastor who baptized me at age 9. I attended Adventist schools through boarding academy and 2 colleges. I was a baptized member of the Adventist church in good standing and faithfully attended the Adventist church for 30 years. Both parents (dad deceased) and many family members remain(ed) faithful Seventh-day Adventist.
I am not saying this to brag or to impress - only to say that I am not ignorant on this subject.
In all my years of association with Seventh-day Adventist I do not recall a single one who ever admitted to believing that EGW is a higher source of authority than the Scripture. Not one! Ever! Yet you believe that to be true of MOST Seventh-day Adventists! Wow!
Ginny's letter ended
P.S.
Just so everyone on this forum knows... David Gates was a featured speaker at a feast of Tabernacles as well as a feast of Passover/unleavened bread which were hosted 1 year ago here in California by Seventh-day Adventists that believe in celebrating the feast days. David’s presentations were attended by many Seventh-day Adventists and all were blessed by his powerful, Messiah centered presentations. So David Gates is obviously not against the idea of keeping the feast days yet many Seventh-day Adventists run from the feast days like they have seen a ghost!! How sad this is when we consider that the entire Seventh-day Adventist movement was founded on the feast day of atonement of 1844 when William Miller spearheaded the great disappointment. Yes, that is correct; the great Millerite Advent awakening of 1844 which took place AFTER the cross began on a feast day and yet ALL Seventh-day Adventist corporate employed evangelists teach that the feast days were “nailed to the cross”. How strange is that?
O how it saddens me that Adventists are generally so ignorant of the facts of history of their own church. How sad that they are generally so afraid of having any identity with the Jews that they are willing to forgo the blessings of gathering at these special times of the year to encourage each other in the narrow way. If they would only reconsider that the Messiah is Jewish and the bible is a Jewish book. How ridiculous that people that claim to read and follow the teachings of the Bible are afraid of behaving the the bible's authors.. it is actually ridiculous when you give it any careful thought and are not prejudiced by the anti-Judaic slant that Christianity has adopted since the 4th century because of the influence of Constantine.
http://totalrestitution.com/articles/ConstantinesProfessionoffaith.html
Did Ellen White keep the feast days? Ellen G. White Does Not Teach Against The Feast Days.. Ignorant, surface level, shallow students of her works only THINK she does.
"In the days of Christ these feasts were attended by vast multitudes of people from all lands, and had they been kept as God intended, in the spirit of true worship, the light of truth might through them have been given to all nations of the world. {PH130 10.1}
With those who lived at a distance from the tabernacle, more than a month of every year must have been occupied in attendance upon these holy convocations. The Lord saw that these gatherings were necessary for the spiritual life of His people. They needed to turn away from their worldly cares, to commune with God, and to contemplate unseen realities. {PH130 10.2}
If the children of Israel needed the benefit of these holy convocations in their time, how much more do we need them in these last days of peril and conflict? And if the people of the world then needed the light which God has committed to his church, how much more do they need it now?" {PH130 10.3}
and this one
"Christians who extol Christ, but array themselves against the law governing the Jewish church, array Christ against Christ." {RH, May 6, 1875 par. 16}
We again have the example of the apostle Paul who is documented in the Scripture as well as in Ellen White's writings as keeping Passover with his Philippian coverts who were gentiles and not Jews. this of course took place AFTER the cross.
" At Philippi Paul tarried to keep the Passover. Only Luke remained with him, the other members of the company passing on to Troas to await him there. The Philippians were the most loving and truehearted of the apostle's converts, and during the eight days of the feast he enjoyed peaceful and happy communion with them." {AA 390.4}
Then Paul later wrote the Philippians and exhorted them to continue to follow the great example he had left them with.
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you." Phil 4:8,9
Don't you believe that it is high time that we advantage ourselves of these wonderful opportunities to gather and worship our King and Redeemer and encourage one another in the narrow path?!
What do we have to loose by obeying Yahuwah and following in the footsteps of Yahuashua and the apostles after the cross? Why do we hesitate so at the plain NEW TESTAMENT command to "keep the feasts" 1Cor 5:8? are we afraid of being blessed and encouraged in the narrow path that has been trodden by our spiritual ancestors? We need to be set free from fear of religious bigots that have hindered the path of the righteous for too long!!!! all fear of obeying YAH is of the Devil and his dark angels.
"For Elohim hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7
"But beware of rejecting that which is truth. The great danger with our people has been that of depending upon men, and making flesh their arm. Those who have not been in the habit of searching the Bible for themselves, or weighing evidence, have confidence in the leading men, and accept the decisions they make, and thus many will reject the very messages Elohim sends to his people, if these leading brethren do not accept them." {GW92 126.4}
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